Outside Veer - Is it viable in a Flexbone Offense
Outside Veer is a play we got a lot of questions about. Can it be run in a flexbone offense? What about adding a 3rd mesh? Why would you run it? How do you run it?
I can understand all those questions and the answer is yes… outside veer can be run effectively in a flexbone offense. I’m going to try and answer all those questions as I detail the play below.. Let’s get started
The rules:
Y/OT: Double the C gap defender (5/6/7). Could get "Trio" call which tells you step inside with inside foot because a 4 tech could become a 5 tech in a 5-2 defense. No C gap defender climb to the linebacker on/over to 3rd level defender. On any double teams if a second level defend fits inside the double you must come off to take that defender
PST: Double with the TE/OT if we have a C gap defender (5/6/7) double with PSG if we have a B gap defender (4/4i). “Trio” call vs. 4 tech. We will double any 4i out. If uncovered (Bear or 4-3 w/9 tech) base rule is to climb to the linebacker on/over. We could make a “Tag” call and double the 3 tech with the PSG and PST. On any double teams if a second level defend fits inside the double you must come off to take that defender
PSG: Base block man on, if uncovered B gap protector have to block play-side to backside backer. Could get a “Trio” call from the PST. On any double teams if a second level defend fits inside the double you must come off to take that defender
C: Scoop play-side A gap to backside backer.
BSG: Scoop
BST: Scoop
PSA: Align on the PST like cheat. Insert under #1 if possible and seal block the first linebacker over to inside of you. Don't chase! If #1 comes down to cancel, club and swat around #1 to seal block the first backer on or over you.
BSA: Rocket Motion (Hands, Hand, Heels) Get into a 1x4 pitch relationship, as you motion have eyes on QB, when he turns up you turn up, be ready to secure the pitch and score.
B Back: Aiming point is inside leg of the PST, fire step with play-side foot, soft fold the mesh, hug the double, climb through the hole, north cut and score.
WR: Crack the near safety
QB: Ensure the snap, one big step and two quick or choppy steps to get in phase with the FB, Read #1 for Give/Keep (Can he cancel the B back by getting his head across) if yes, violently disengage and replace the #1's heels, if #2 cancels you either dip and pitch or sit and pitch
OSV vs. 4-4
OSV vs. Under
OSV vs. 5-2
OSV vs. 3-3
OSV vs. Bear
OSV vs. Spilt 4
Let’s Answer some of those questions:
#1 What are your thoughts on adding a 3rd mesh to practice?
I personally don’t think adding a third mesh is very difficult to teach. The QB has to know he must take an elongated first step to start the process of getting into the mesh with the B back. I don’t think you have to run at #1/dive key. I also think you could cut your splits down to the 3 man surface and keep this OSV mesh the same as ISV mesh, then you don’t have to teach new footwork to the quarterback. My point in all of this is find a way to keep the play, don’t fire it because you don’t want to teach new footwork.
#2 Why Would You Run It?
I love to run this play to change who the #1/Dive key is. I’m on a quest to bring back Inside Veer, so if you run ISV then you know when you block #1/dive key and read #2/pitch key as #1/dive key it really puts stress on how a team has practiced all week to defend ISV. I also think this play can have some attitude about it! You are true double teaming at the point of attack and sending a message to the other team “we came to get after you”. Outside Veer can also allow for an easier read for the QB vs. Odd fronts. A lot of coaches feel its hard to read a 4/4i on ISV, things happen to fast. Although mid-triple is great alternative, I think Outside Veer gives you the ability to keep the B back involved in a true option play!
#3 Can you change who #2 is or does it have to be a corner?
Yes, you don’t have to make the corner the pitch key. We like to try and do that as much as we can because those guys typically aren’t coached to be pitch players and we want to make them have to tackle our ball carriers. You can certainly make a safety a pitch player or even a play-side linebacker in a bear front. Its up to you and how you like to block the perimeter.
#4 Can It Be A Viable play in a flexbone offense?
I’m going to let the film below speak to that answer!
I have also linked a great clinic on Outside Veer to a 2 man surface that Tony Rodriguez did a few years ago because Outside Veer can be run to a two man surface.